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21 lip 2021
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Pytanie o REPUBLIKA CZESKA
Generally speaking, how do the Czechs see themselves as a nation in terms of religiousness?
Generally speaking, how do the Czechs see themselves as a nation in terms of religiousness?
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23 lip 2021
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That's quite hard topic to explain properly, because it has a lot of layers and aspects.
During the reformation period, the majority of Czechs became protestants. After defeating Czech protestant nobles in battle of Bila Hora (1620), Habsburg emperor decided to make Czech people Catholic again, so they don't rebel again. The push was pretty strong and he (and his successors) really achieved this goal but it was something forced upon them, so they hadn't like it as much as if they had chosen it themselves.
Catholic religion was therefore seen as a mere tool of Austrian emperor. When Czechs started their national movements (first half of 19th century), they felt that they need to get rid of it in order to get rid of the Emperor and German(ic) influence. After Czechoslovakian independence (1918) the church lost a lot of its power and the political elite was quite anti-religious.
Then during the communist regime (1948-1989) any religion was seen by the communist party as dangerous. In the fifties they arrested and executed many leading religious figures and many other were arrested or exiled. If you went to the church, you may have lost your job, your kids may have troubles getting to a high school or at least a secret police may ask you some conspicuous questions. Many people therefore stopped going to church whatsoever just not to have troubles.
After the fall of communist regime (1989) many people never returned to any church, they didn't go there for 40 years, so why to start? There were (and sadly still is) also some scandals with sexual harassment and corruption in the Catholic church which worsened the image of religion and made some people leave.
You can see that the process was pretty long, each generation was slightly less religious than the previous one. There may be some conflicts in some families where grandparents are not happy that their grandchildren don't go to church, but it was never a big issue.
In other countries such as Poland, religion is seen as something intertwined with national identity. You must be a Catholic to be a good Pole. You must be orthodox Christian to be a good Serb (mix of nationality and religion in southern Slavic countries - Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia is a topic for another day, albeit very interesting)
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generaly Czechs will say atheits, but what they mean is, that most people just don't realy think about it.
otherwise most of religious people are christians, with Moravians being more religious than Czechs (people from Czech/ western half of CZ). Most of those christians are catholics, but you will find the protestants quite oftens too
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@sarkavlk I see, thanks for your answer.
But was this the case during the generation of parents and grandparents in Czech? Or such tendency toward atheism, not strictly speaking, developed recently, after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise of the European Union?
I'm wondering because as you may know, Poland is seen by its neighbors as a religious, Catholic country, (Right?), Russia and Ukraine Orthodox, and other Slavic nations, like Serbia and Croatians claim strong religiousness.
But was this the case during the generation of parents and grandparents in Czech? Or such tendency toward atheism, not strictly speaking, developed recently, after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise of the European Union?
I'm wondering because as you may know, Poland is seen by its neighbors as a religious, Catholic country, (Right?), Russia and Ukraine Orthodox, and other Slavic nations, like Serbia and Croatians claim strong religiousness.
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That's quite hard topic to explain properly, because it has a lot of layers and aspects.
During the reformation period, the majority of Czechs became protestants. After defeating Czech protestant nobles in battle of Bila Hora (1620), Habsburg emperor decided to make Czech people Catholic again, so they don't rebel again. The push was pretty strong and he (and his successors) really achieved this goal but it was something forced upon them, so they hadn't like it as much as if they had chosen it themselves.
Catholic religion was therefore seen as a mere tool of Austrian emperor. When Czechs started their national movements (first half of 19th century), they felt that they need to get rid of it in order to get rid of the Emperor and German(ic) influence. After Czechoslovakian independence (1918) the church lost a lot of its power and the political elite was quite anti-religious.
Then during the communist regime (1948-1989) any religion was seen by the communist party as dangerous. In the fifties they arrested and executed many leading religious figures and many other were arrested or exiled. If you went to the church, you may have lost your job, your kids may have troubles getting to a high school or at least a secret police may ask you some conspicuous questions. Many people therefore stopped going to church whatsoever just not to have troubles.
After the fall of communist regime (1989) many people never returned to any church, they didn't go there for 40 years, so why to start? There were (and sadly still is) also some scandals with sexual harassment and corruption in the Catholic church which worsened the image of religion and made some people leave.
You can see that the process was pretty long, each generation was slightly less religious than the previous one. There may be some conflicts in some families where grandparents are not happy that their grandchildren don't go to church, but it was never a big issue.
In other countries such as Poland, religion is seen as something intertwined with national identity. You must be a Catholic to be a good Pole. You must be orthodox Christian to be a good Serb (mix of nationality and religion in southern Slavic countries - Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia is a topic for another day, albeit very interesting)
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what ortocymen said.
but there people turning to religion now that they are free to do so and after the velvet revolution lot of people started with the 'exotic' religions (not christianity or judaism) as well. Especialy in Prague you can find all sorts, but ultimately these are super minority
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@Howetk1 Your concept of "Slavic nations" is basically wrong. More important are cultural areas like Central Europe. We have more in common with Hungarians and Austrians than most of Slavic nations.
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Czy ta odpowiedź była pomocna?
- Kraj lub region ZJEDNOCZONE EMIRATY ARABSKIE
@Michael_Moravian Your understanding of the term "Slavic nations", that I used, is evidently flawed.
I'm interested in understanding cultural aspects of the Slavs, that is why I referred to the ethnic group to which these nations belong. I certainly didn't link ethnicity membership to cultural influences, which ISN'T IN ANY WAY WRONG especially when studying the history of nations and ethnic groups (by definition: an ethnic group or ethnicity is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups such as a common set of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion or social treatment within their residing area."
Don't play smart mind European, while you are pathetic. Don't ever evaluate me or what I say, and learn before you open your mouth!
I'm interested in understanding cultural aspects of the Slavs, that is why I referred to the ethnic group to which these nations belong. I certainly didn't link ethnicity membership to cultural influences, which ISN'T IN ANY WAY WRONG especially when studying the history of nations and ethnic groups (by definition: an ethnic group or ethnicity is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups such as a common set of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion or social treatment within their residing area."
Don't play smart mind European, while you are pathetic. Don't ever evaluate me or what I say, and learn before you open your mouth!
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We just don't care about organized religions. Personally, I don't have any friends believing in any deity. We are consumers.
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