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mourou
12 cze 2018

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Q　適当なものを選びなさい。
近くの公園内のベンチが壊れているので早く直してもらいたいと思って、役所に電話で連絡した。係りの人は一応話を聞いてくれたが、何日待っても直しに来てくれない。住民の要求にもっと早く 「 X 」 。

１）応じてほしい
２）応じてあげてほしい
３）応じてくれてほしい

Related question: How does くれて・あげて・もらって work when placed with ほしい？Whose viewpoint will it take?

私があなたに食べてほしい
I want you to eat. （あなたが食べる）
私があなたに食べてもっらてほしい（？）
I want you to eat it for me. View point on 私？

I'm slightly confused because ほしい makes it such that あなた is the person doing the action. In that case, should the viewpoint change to あなた instead, or still remain on 私?

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Call_me_MAKI
12 cze 2018

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住民にあなたも入っているのでしたら、住民の要求にもっと早く応じてほしい。
もし住民にあなたが加わっていないのでしたら、応じてあげて欲しい。

私があなたに食べてほしいのよ！
私が作ったケーキ、あなたのお子さんに食べてもらって。

食べてもらって欲しいは、おかしくはないけどクドイ気がします。

Usunięty użytkownik
12 cze 2018

Because of 近くの used, the 住民の means 'our' includes the speaker. So, the X should be 1.

taiko
12 cze 2018

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住民の要求にもっと早く 「 X 」 。 1）応じて欲しい
That's because the person who called the public office and have a demand for it is 'you'. "I want the public office to meet my (as one of inhabitants) demands more quickly."

ex : I want the public office to live up to the demands more quickly for other inhabitants.
他の住民の為に、もっと早く要求応じてほしい。
他の住民の為に、もっと早く要求に応じてあげてほしい。

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fitfat
12 cze 2018

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Already the answer is said, X is 1, if 住民 include speaker, or X is 2, if 住民 exclusive speaker.

SはOに～してほしい: this is S’s view point. E.g. “I” want you to help me, or “you” want to help.

SはO1にO2を～してあげてほしい: this is also S’s view point, but for O2. E.g. “l” want you to help “her”, or do “you” want “me” to help him?
This sentence is looked up to O1, or looked down on O2. Then, it is polite sometimes, and it’s arrogant the other hand.

～もらってほしい: this means just “want to take”. The view point is from Subject.

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gapyon
12 cze 2018

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The answer should be 1. 1. "～(して)ほしい" is used to express *my* demand/request. 2. "～(してあげて)ほしい" is used to express my hope that someone to do something for another person's benefit that I thinks beneficial. 3. "～(して)くれてほしい" is not a natural phrase. 1 is the most appropriate choice, because the author of the article hopes government office to take care of *our* demands more quickly. With regard to your relevant question: - "～(して)くれてほしい" is not natural phrase at all, not limited in combination with "食べる". - "食べてあげてほしい" can be used that I ask someone to eat typically for benefit of other person. The viewpoint is "私" or subjective person. - "食べてもらってほしい" is not natural phrase as well. It can be altered simply with "食べてほしい". If you want to emphasize "for me", you can say "私のために食べてほしい". - However, in general, "～(して)もらってほしい" is very very rarely, but can be used without "食べる" or other exceptions, in order to ask someone to accept actions/efforts/services/volunteers made by other person. For example, "私はお父さんに運転してもらってほしい" that means "I want papa to drive a car for you". Please imagine my mother tries to convince my grandpa not to drive a car, because he is old and bit dangerous. So she propose my father to drive a car instead. In this case viewpoint is still on "私" that means my mother. But again, it is rarely used.

The answer should be 1.
1. "～(して)ほしい" is used to express *my* demand/request.
2. "～(してあげて)ほしい" is used to express my hope that someone to do something for another person's benefit that I thinks beneficial.
3. "～(して)くれてほしい" is not a natural phrase.

1 is the most appropriate choice, because the author of the article hopes government office to take care of *our* demands more quickly.

With regard to your relevant question:
- "～(して)くれてほしい" is not natural phrase at all, not limited in combination with "食べる".
- "食べてあげてほしい" can be used that I ask someone to eat typically for benefit of other person. The viewpoint is "私" or subjective person.
- "食べてもらってほしい" is not natural phrase as well. It can be altered simply with "食べてほしい". If you want to emphasize "for me", you can say "私のために食べてほしい".
- However, in general, "～(して)もらってほしい" is very very rarely, but can be used without "食べる" or other exceptions, in order to ask someone to accept actions/efforts/services/volunteers made by other person.
For example, "私はお父さんに運転してもらってほしい" that means "I want papa to drive a car for you". Please imagine my mother tries to convince my grandpa not to drive a car, because he is old and bit dangerous. So she propose my father to drive a car instead. In this case viewpoint is still on "私" that means my mother. But again, it is rarely used.

mourou
12 cze 2018

  • angielski (amerykański)
@gapyon thank you so much for the very detailed answer! so basically, i should avoid using もらってほしい and completely not use くれてほしい... thank you!
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mourou
12 cze 2018

  • angielski (amerykański)
@fitfat i see! i understand now. thank you!
mourou
12 cze 2018

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@taiko thank you for your answer!
mourou
12 cze 2018

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@Call_me_MAKI ご回答ありがとうございます！
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mourou
12 cze 2018

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@y_toshi thank you for your answer!
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Q　適当なものを選びなさい。 近くの公園内のベンチが壊れているので早く直してもらいたいと思って、役所に電話で連絡した。係りの人は一応話を聞いてくれたが、何日待っても直しに来てくれない。住民の要求にもっと早く 「 X 」 。 １）応じてほしい ２）応じてあげてほしい ３）応じてくれてほしい Related question: How does くれて・あげて・もらって work when placed with ほしい？Whose viewpoint will it take? 私があなたに食べてほしい I want you to eat. （あなたが食べる） 私があなたに食べてもっらてほしい（？） I want you to eat it for me. View point on 私？ I'm slightly confused because ほしい makes it such that あなた is the person doing the action. In that case, should the viewpoint change to あなた instead, or still remain on 私?
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